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Abrogation Mentioned in Bible

It is so interesting. The Christians fuzzing about Abrogations of verses in Al-Qur’an, but we can find a similar case in the Bible.
It is in Hebrews 7: 18
New International Version (NIV)

18 The FORMER REGULATION IS SET ASIDE BECAUSE IT WAS WEAK AND USELESS
Other translation:
New King James Version
18. For on the one hand there is an ANNULLING OF THE FORMER COMMANDMENT because of its weakness and unprofitableness.

But this translation mentions ABROGATION.
Weymouth New Testament

On the one hand, we have here the ABROGATION OF AN EARLIER CODE because it was weak and ineffective.
Link: https://www.biblestudytools.com/wnt/hebrews/7.html

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The verse of stoning and suckling being eaten by the Goat

Source: https://muslimallegationhunters.home.blog/2019/10/18/the-verse-of-stoningsuckling-being-eaten-by-the-goat/


Christian Missionaries have led a new dishonest campaign of an apparent “proof” that Muslims have corrupted the Quran. Their argument is a Hadith from Sunan Ibn Majah which apparently demonstrates a goat eating the absent verse of suckling and stoning. I will touch on this topic as i go on.

Before we begin we must clarify on the concept of ‘Naskh’ (abrogation)

There are three types of abrogation in the Quran…

Ibn Salama says:

The scholars have divided abrogation into three kinds:

1)Abrogation of the recited (verse) together with the legal ruling.

2)Abrogation of the legal ruling without the recited (verse).

3)Abrogation of the recited (verse) without the legal ruling.

[1] Al-nasikh wa al-mansukh by Ibn Salama pg 5

Ahmad von Denffer said:

For abrogation of the recited (verse) together with its legal ruling:

‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur’an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah’s apostle (may peace be upon him) died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur’an (and recited by the Muslims). [34 Muslim, II, No. 3421.]

For abrogation of a legal ruling without the recited (verse):

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Missing Verse On Suckling?

Source:

https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/quranic_variant__missing_verse_on_suckling_


By

Bassam Zawadi

Note: FIRST READ THIS ARTICLE (*)

Here are the hadiths which supposedly speak about the “missing verse” from the Qur’an:

Saheeh Muslim 

Book 008, Number 3421:

‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with, her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur’an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur’an (and recited by the Muslims).

Malik’s Muwatta

Book 030, Hadith Number 017.
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Section : Suckling in General.

Yahya related to me from Malik from Abdullah ibn Abi Bakr ibn Hazm from Amra bint Abd ar-Rahman that A’isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “Amongst what was sent down of the Qur’an was ‘ten known sucklings make haram’ – then it was abrogated by ‘five known sucklings’. When the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, died, it was what is now recited of the Qur’an.” Yahya said that Malik said, “One does not act on this.” Read more of this post

Proof of Abrogation From the Bible Part 3

Source: https://thedebateinitiative.com/2014/12/03/abrogation-in-the-bible/


Christian apologists often try to cast doubt on Islam because of the issue of abrogation.

In this article we will turn the tables on Christian apologists, by bringing up abrogation taking part in the Bible. Bear in mind, Christian apologists try to argue against the Quran because of abrogation, therefore if they are consistent and follow their own criteria, the should now argue and doubt the Bible because it too contains abrogation.

Can you marry your sister?

In the Bible, we read that Abraham married his half sister:

Genesis 20:11-12: And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife’s sake. And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

Later on in the Bible we read that such a marriage is forbidden, and the one who practices it is cursed:

Deuteronomy 27:22: Cursedbe he that lies with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen

So this is a clear example of a change in ruling, previously there was no command against marrying your sister, as Abraham (pbuh) practiced such an act. Afterwards however, in the law of Moses (pbuh), marrying your sister was forbidden, and the person who would do such a marriage would be cursed. Read more of this post

Proof of Abrogation From the Bible Part 2

Abrogation in Bible in detail …

Source: https://www.facebook.com/notes/answering-christanity/abrogation-in-bible-in-detail-/206912162674361/


When one studies the Hebrew and Greek scriptures, it becomes clear that omnipotent and omniscient God did make mistakes and repented. This means that the God did not know his own actions and the outcomes of the actions. According to Bible…  Now for some fine examples.

Let us first start with Old Testament. In the story of Noah(P), it is mention that:

And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground anymore for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more everything living, as I have done [Genesis 8:21]

And in the story of Moses(P), we read

    And the LORD repented of the evil which he

thought to do unto his people [Exodus 32:14]

Oh no! that is Old Testament, cries the Christian. The New Testament has replaced all that. Yes, in the New Testament, the monotheistic and henotheistic God of Israel, Yahweh, suddenly starts to be interpreted as Trinity. So, the concept of monotheistic and henotheistic God itself got abrogated in the New Testament as the Christians allege! So we have to assume that the monotheistic and henotheistic God of Israel did not know that he was Trinity and made a serious mistake or he simply changed his mind or in the worst case scenario, he cheated the People of Israel. Read more of this post

Proof of Abrogation From the Bible Part 1

Source: https://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2010/04/quran-abrogation-lie-of-lost-verses.html


There are many commandments in the Bible that changed. Instead of discussing them, I give concrete references for abrogation declared in the Bible.

‘For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.’ (Hebrews 7:12)

Well known Christian commentator Adam Clarke writes under this verse:

‘The priesthood, therefore, being changed, Jesus coming in the place of Aaron, the law of ordinances and ceremonies, which served only to point out the Messiah, must of necessity be changed also.’

Lost books of the Bible

In fact, there were many books to which even the authors of the Canonical books also referred but they are lost or at least not in the Bible.

Some of them are:

1- The Book of the Wars of the Lord mentioned in Numbers 21:14
2- Book of Jasher mentioned in Joshua 10: 13 etc
3- Book of Nathan the Prophet mentioned in2-Chronicles 9: 29
4- Acts of Rehoboam & Book of Shemaiah the prophet mentioned in 2-Chronicles 12:15
5- Book of the acts of Solomon mentioned in 1-Kings 11:41
6- Acts of Uzziah mentioned in 2-Chronicles 26:22

This proves that the teachings of the prophets have been lost. Do Christians have any scriptural proof or historical evidence that nothing of value has been lost in these books and their teachings and records have been preserved in their so-called canon now?

All this exposes the liars who try to put the authenticity Book of Islam to doubt while their own book of authority is in the worst condition on the very accounts they try to challenge the Quran.

INDEED ALLAH KNOWS THE BEST!

…by Waqar Akbar Cheema


 

Verses of stoning and Breastfeeding

Posted by Saif min Suyufillah on 

Source: https://rebuttaltoansweringmuslims.wordpress.com/2014/12/21/answering-using-the-quran-to-explain-the-incarnation-of-jesus-to-muslims/?fbclid=IwAR0xsj6e-m5a5U0PnkvgVX0Q2eEvrgqVBY1rAWqwhoatHEQYQvGcsIQD8ok


The narration goes as;

عن عائشة قالت لقد نزلت آية الرجم ورضاعة الكبير عشرا ولقد كان في صحيفة تحت سريري فلما مات رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم وتشاغلنا بموته دخل داجن فأكلها

Reported ‘Aisha (RA): ‘the verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times was revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) expired and we were occupied by his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper.’ (Sunan Ibn Majah, Hadith 1944)

1- Authenticity of the narration:

Whenever we have a narration we ought to see whether it is authentic or not? The narration in fact has some problems.

The particular chain given in Sunan Ibn Majah finds one of the narrators Muhammad bin Ishaq narrating it using the word عن (‘an) which is rather an ambiguous way of narration and renders the narration weak when used by a narrator known for practicing Tadlis [practice of subtly missing a link] and Muhammad Ibn Ishaq is indeed such a narrator. Thus through particular chain of narration in Sunan Ibn Majah the narration is weak and unauthentic due the above mentioned defect though it has other issues as well as mentioned in the lines to follow. This is clarified by Shaykh Muhammad Taqi Usmani in Takmala Fath Al-Mulhim 1/69 pub. Darul Ahya Al-Turath Al-Arabi, Beirut.

In Musnad Ahmad the same narration is given through the same chain but with an explicit way of narration i.e. it does not have the defect like the narration in Ibn Majah’s collection. But the narration is exposed to more criticism because many other narrators have related from ‘Aisha (RA) about the suckling/breastfeeding but no one has narrated the words found in this chain even though the narrators in those cases are more reliable and consistent than Muhammad bin Ishaq. And due to the fact of these words being narrated solely by him and in defiance to other much more reliable narrators, scholars have questioned its authenticity. Shaykh Shu’aib Arnaud has classified it as Da’if in his classification of Musnad Ahmad. See Musnad Ahmad 6/269 Hadith 26359. Read more of this post

Missing Quran verses on stoning and breastfeeding

UMAR, GOAT AND LOST VERSES ON STONING?

Source: http://islamicresponse.blogspot.com/2008/07/missing-quran-verses-on-stoning-and.html


First of all everyone should read the following on the issue of Quranic variants and abrogation, seeing as a lot of people without any knowledge on the issue use it as a stick to beat the Muslims claiming the Quran has been changed and has some missing verses, when in fact it does not.

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Mss/

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/introduction_to_quranic_variants

After reading this it should be clear that the Quran we have today is the Quran we were supposed to have as revealed, and intended from the creator to form the final revelation.

Regarding stoning it is said:

“He will state that this is a lost verse that was originally in the Quran in chapter 33, and there are numerous sources for this fact.”

Yes there are numerous sources, all which definitively disagree with the assertion that there is a lost verse on stoning. Please check out the following for clarity on the matter:

http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/the_quranic_verse_on_stoning

After reading this it should be clear that this was not a missing verse, nor a lost verse. In fact, it is no verse. It was abrogated via permission of the prophet and consensus amongst the companions. If it was lost or forgotten, why is it that the hadith clearly record the fact that the Prophet and the companions agreed that it was not part of the Quran. How can they talk about and discuss something which they have supposedly forgotten. Furthermore the law was actually implemented by them, how could they have implemented a law derived from something which they have supposedly forgotten? Read more of this post

Why do numerous hadiths claim the Quran is missing verses or has different versions?

Zaid Shaw, studied Islamic Knowledge & Sufi Islam

Naskh means Abrogation or Cancellation which I believe is what your question is referring to when you use the word ‘missing verses’ from Quran.

The numerous ahadith that have been alleged to refer to ‘missing’ verses of the Quran are actually referring to the orders in the Quran addressed at different times during the 23 year time period of Quran’s revelation. Some orders abrogated the others and there is proof for us in the Quran and the Hadith for that.

For instance in Tafsir (Commentary) of Ibn Kathir (r.a), regarding the verses of fasting, in the beginning the command was understood by the companions to either fast or feed poor persons:

..those who can fast with difficulty, they have to feed a Miskin (poor person (2:184) was revealed, those who did not wish to fast, used to pay the Fidyah (feeding a poor person for each day they did not fast) until the following Ayah (2:185) was revealed abrogating the previous Ayah. It was also reported from `Ubaydullah from Nafi` that Ibn `Umar said; “It was abrogated.’ The various Stages of Fasting

The companions at first used to feed poor persons instead of fasting in lieu of 2:184but when the following verse of 2:185 was revealed it abrogated that concession and the command of 2:184 was now only limited to those who are old, sick or on a journey and therefore unable to fast. In this instance the command was abrogated meaning that it was made more explanatory by adding exceptions but the Verses of the Quran still remain in Quran up till today. Such instance is an abrogation of commandments that Quran is replete with and numerous ahadith testify to this fact. Read more of this post